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haykam 1022YYYY-191651
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1022YYYY-192525
can you move this channel to the top, it's annoying me
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Harley Hicks 1022YYYY-193116
@ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) there you go.
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1022YYYY-193120
ok thank you
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haykam 1022YYYY-194810
Can you also make a separate category for #news and move that to the top? Sorry, I'm also OCD like pfg 😛
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1022YYYY-194842
if you're doing that then can #welcome be above #general or in a seperate category (edited)
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spencer 1022YYYY-213516
Can we share shortcuts in this discord?
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Harley Hicks 1022YYYY-213756
I made a channel for that @spencer : #share-a-shortcut
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spencer 1022YYYY-213834
Thanks! @Harley Hicks
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Harley Hicks 1023YYYY-064629
@haykam @ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) I did some channel reorg. Let me know what you think.
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1023YYYY-090148
looks good
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haykam 1023YYYY-135749
Nice!
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Timber 1023YYYY-161402
Hey all, good to see you all here too!
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Harley Hicks 1023YYYY-193752
I know I'm the dev, and I'm probably going to sound salesy, but I'm excited about the new features coming in the next few weeks.
19:38
The future is bright.
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Timber 1023YYYY-200419
haha it has us excited too!
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spencer 1023YYYY-215637
Good to hear @Harley Hicks I love Shortcuts and it’s community
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Chewyy 1024YYYY-131142
Woo I just broke 1000 total downloads on all my shortcuts 😄
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Harley Hicks 1024YYYY-131823
Awesome!!!
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1024YYYY-131949
congrats!
13:24
my one RH shortcut is coming up on that many downloads. hopefully soon!
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Chewyy 1024YYYY-132542
RoutinePub is great
13:25
I did have a question about it @Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub)
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1024YYYY-132619
go ahead!
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Chewyy 1024YYYY-132648
I tried to use it for an initial upload, but when I do it through the site, I find it not telling me the RoutinePub ID, so I have to publish without version, get the ID, then go through and upload current version
13:27
Every time I've tried to use the RoutinePub button, it hasn't worked for initial uploads
13:27
Probably user error
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Harley Hicks 1024YYYY-132740
That might actually be more of a me question. (edited)
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1024YYYY-132754
^ was about to explain but i’ll let him grab it
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Chewyy 1024YYYY-132802
Awesome
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Harley Hicks 1024YYYY-132833
When you create your Shortcut, do you click the "Continue with RoutinePub" button at the bottom? (edited)
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Chewyy 1024YYYY-132910
Yes
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Harley Hicks 1024YYYY-132924
And what happens when you click it?
13:30
Do you get the "RoutinePub" page that shows your shortcut's ID?
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Chewyy 1024YYYY-133105
Oh, wait, nvm
13:31
I was doing it backwards
13:31
OH NO
13:31
Yah,
13:31
so when I do that
13:31
I get the routinepub ID
13:31
I go to shortcuts app
13:31
Put the routine pub ID and then run RoutinePub
13:31
But I get an error saying that the shortcut is not published
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Harley Hicks 1024YYYY-133159
ahhhhhh.
13:32
That makes more sense.
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Chewyy 1024YYYY-133217
So, I usually only use RoutinePub for updates
13:32
rather than initial uploads
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Harley Hicks 1024YYYY-133226
Hey @Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub), I thought I made it so that even unpublished shortcuts work... Did I forget to do that?
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1024YYYY-133246
I believe you may have
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Harley Hicks 1024YYYY-133256
Damn. Ok. I'll fix that.
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1024YYYY-133304
currently a shortcut must be published to accept any submissions from RP (edited)
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Chewyy 1024YYYY-133312
^
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Harley Hicks 1024YYYY-133325
I've had a few people confused about that, but I thought I had fixed that. Really sorry about that!!!
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Chewyy 1024YYYY-133334
No worries!
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1024YYYY-133345
😂 i thought it was intentional so i didn’t mention it!
13:33
I have to go tell some people on Reddit that it’s possible haha
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Chewyy 1024YYYY-133404
Hahahaha
13:34
It was be awesome if there was a way to create the shortcut on RoutineHub using RoutinePub
13:34
Like the shortcut name, type, description, and initial upload
13:34
All within shortcuts
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1024YYYY-133524
we talked about that think!
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Harley Hicks 1024YYYY-133531
So I did do it, but I forgot to remove the validation check 🤦
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1024YYYY-133533
a lot of issues there
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Chewyy 1024YYYY-133545
Oh yah, I can imagine it'd cause a lot of problems
13:35
Shortcuts is still very restricted
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1024YYYY-133608
i think i can probably piece together the necessary data in a shortcut once searching for app store items is fixed. maybe!
13:36
but idk if we want to go that route.
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Chewyy 1024YYYY-133732
I was trying to make a RoutineHub Stats Shortcut that tells you downloads for each Shortcut in one output
13:37
But I can;t think of a way to do it where I could share it
13:37
Because my idea would be through ripping XML data to a google sheet
13:38
and reading the google sheet
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Harley Hicks 1024YYYY-133812
I do think the next step is to be able to completely publish and manage a Shortcut on RH from RP, but that's a ways out. Also, @Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) has been taking the lead on it, and I haven't much time to dive into it more.
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1024YYYY-133827
i betcha we could get stats into RP pretty easily
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Chewyy 1024YYYY-133901
Like, my NFL scores shortcut uses XML data from NFL.com which is ripped into a google sheet
13:39
#howtoavoidhighAPIcost
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Harley Hicks 1024YYYY-133936
Alright, if you guys want to try uploading a fresh version to an unpublished shortcut, it should work now.
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Chewyy 1024YYYY-133946
I'll give it a shot
13:39
One moment
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Harley Hicks 1024YYYY-134006
@Chewyy Where would you be getting the stats from? Just from the html?
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Chewyy 1024YYYY-134051
Yah, you could use getHTML or getXML commands in Google sheets, but it wouldn't be able to be used for widespread usage because each person has its own site
13:41
Unless I find a way to setup vars in a spreadsheet, but google would probably ban me for refresh rate of the XML
13:41
I already get emails from the NFL scores
13:41
lmao
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1024YYYY-134136
would the preferred stats UI be: A) Ask for stats and see stats for all shortcuts at once, or B) Select one shortcut and see stats for just that one?
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Harley Hicks 1024YYYY-134201
Well hold on that. Cause in depth stats is coming to RH soon.
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1024YYYY-134228
if in depth stats are coming then i think option B above would be best
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Harley Hicks 1024YYYY-134256
in fact, @everyone, what kind of stats would you want to see on your shortcuts? So far I'm thinking visit count to the shortcut page, how many downloads, and top referrers (where people are coming from to your shortcut) (edited)
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Chewyy 1024YYYY-134706
https://routinehub.co/shortcut/474 Check if the download works for this
Quickly get activation links for TV apps
13:47
If it does then it works now @Harley Hicks
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Harley Hicks 1024YYYY-134812
'tworks
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Chewyy 1024YYYY-134817
Great!
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Harley Hicks 1024YYYY-134851
@Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) Let it be known that you can now push your first version to RH from RP.
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Chewyy 1024YYYY-134924
Hey @Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub)
13:49
I have an idea for RP possibly
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1024YYYY-134951
👏 👏
13:49
@Chewyy shoot
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Chewyy 1024YYYY-135036
Currently, something I forget about a lot when publishing updates, is I forget to remove API keys, maybe make a check for API keys based on variables if that is possible? and if so, remove the API key? Idk if any of this is actually possible
13:50
But essentially, helpings publishers not lock out their API key by forgetting to remove it
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Harley Hicks 1024YYYY-135255
Your not talking about your RH API key, just general ones when you're developing them, right?
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Chewyy 1024YYYY-135301
Yes yes
13:53
Like, I use a lot of APIs in my shortcuts
13:53
And when uploading updates, I have to duplicate, rename, remove API, upload, then copy and paste API key back into the up to date version, then can use it again
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Harley Hicks 1024YYYY-135352
Ok. I'm going to be working on parsing Shortcuts in the future. I'll make a note of this as a feature.
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Chewyy 1024YYYY-135357
Awesome
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Harley Hicks 1024YYYY-135459
That's definitely something more advanced, but I'm willing to try and tackle it 😃
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1024YYYY-135750
it’s not something RP can do because shortcuts cannot read other shortcuts.
13:57
would have to be server side for sure
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Chewyy 1024YYYY-135829
They need to make a get contents of shortcut command
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Harley Hicks 1024YYYY-135849
Yeah, I would basically do a validation check that would throw an error back to RP.
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1024YYYY-140832
clears throat RoutinePub now has statistics support, pending the release of the actual feature and the development of an endpoint that returns the values.
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Chewyy 1024YYYY-140851
😮
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Harley Hicks 1024YYYY-141117
Haha. That will be in the near future.
14:11
I'm hoping in the next 2 weeks.
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1024YYYY-141200
cool, just ping me and we’ll talk api details when you’re ready
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Timber 1024YYYY-151826
I would also love a way to reference used shortcuts (i.e. we currently mention apps that are used/referenced, but it would be cool to link back to other shortcuts too)
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Harley Hicks 1024YYYY-151856
That's something I've been thinking about. I've seen some pretty interesting Shortcuts lately that act more like libraries.
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Chewyy 1024YYYY-151931
I usually just have a forced download in the shortcut that references said shortcut
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Timber 1024YYYY-152727
Yeah, but its cool if we could also just sorta reference what we use
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Harley Hicks 1024YYYY-152842
For sure.
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Chewyy 1024YYYY-162142
So @Timber What is your medical shortcut?
16:21
O.o
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Timber 1024YYYY-162148
haha
16:22
RoutineHub is a community to find, share and version-control your Siri Shortcuts.
16:22
Find Closest ER was the main, but I have some other things I am working on too (one that is a big project, but wou;dn't be public) and then some others that I might make work
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Chewyy 1024YYYY-162255
coo coo
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Harley Hicks 1024YYYY-183949
profile_user.username... whoops
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Timber 1024YYYY-183956
lololol
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spencer 1024YYYY-184436
@Chewyy if you don’t want to keep removing api keys, maybe store them in an icloud txt as json?
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1024YYYY-190556
not a bad idea but then you have to import the file and pull the appropriate variables, which means you have to delete those steps before sharing.
19:07
although that’s a solid idea… i might think about storing RoutinePub API keys in iCloud with a setting to change them in the shortcut. might be better than storing them in the shortcut directly because then they will persist across updates!
19:07
thanks @spencer!
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heyflorin 1024YYYY-190745
@Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) I'm looking to add my Roku Voice shortcut to RoutineHub but am a little confused as to how to do this. Here's my draft shortcut I just created in RoutineHub. Mind walking me through the nest steps needed? I know you have a write up about it but my situation is a little more complicated. Here's a screenshot of all of the Shortcuts that eventually get installed by the Roku Voice shortcut and subsequently, the RV: Setup shortcut.
19:09
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Timber 1024YYYY-190953
Hey @heyflorin , it looks like you need to upload the latest version to RoutineHub. You first make the page, then need up upload the first version as an update.
19:10
Go to the shortcut page and click "Create Version"
19:10
If you need all the files, I think you'll have to upload them individually though which isn't ideal obviously...
19:11
You might want to consider a single "Install" app to upload, and then host them elsewhere or in a .zip or something similar
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heyflorin 1024YYYY-191128
That's what I was thinking. So in the main Shortcut "Roku Voice" I am searching for RV: Setup with regex.
19:11
And if it's not there, I have the user download it.
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Timber 1024YYYY-191147
Yep
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heyflorin 1024YYYY-191205
Then when they run either Roku Voice or RV: Setup again, it's all hand-holding from there.
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Timber 1024YYYY-191217
Yep that sounds about right!
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heyflorin 1024YYYY-191232
RV: Setup gives the user the ability to install all the other shortcuts.
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Timber 1024YYYY-191242
Though, depending how your workflow is, you might have some issues with linked apps. I had that problem with some of my shortcuts...
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1024YYYY-191251
why not search for the other shortcuts? what if they delete the setup after it is all installed?
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heyflorin 1024YYYY-191252
How so?
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Timber 1024YYYY-191307
Or do what Mike suggested, that would work as well.
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heyflorin 1024YYYY-191319
The action shortcuts are self-standing.
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Timber 1024YYYY-191345
For me, I found that basically if you reference another Shortcut (like "Open Shortcut" or Open App) and it's not installed, then it gets removed and you have to re-install it to get it back... It's not ideal
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1024YYYY-191349
so which ones can be deleted after they are all installed without breaking anything?
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heyflorin 1024YYYY-191435
What i really need is for someone to beta test this, but I can't find anyone willing to do it who has a Roku device :P.
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Timber 1024YYYY-191450
haha, I would but not a Roku in sight XD
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Chewyy 1024YYYY-191506
I run and if statement before open shortcut
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heyflorin 1024YYYY-191507
Setup can be deleted, the others simply look for the JSON file, and just errors out. I suppose I should add the dependency in each action?
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1024YYYY-191518
Host the main one on RoutineHub with UpdateKit support. Then if you want the ability to update individual ones, add a self-hosted UpdateKit to each of them
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Chewyy 1024YYYY-191520
Then in the otherwise, open URL to the download link for the required shortcut
19:15
With an alert stating to download and re run
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Timber 1024YYYY-191556
Chewyy, have you tried putting that out on another device that isn;t yours?
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heyflorin 1024YYYY-191559
Alright, I'll give it a shot.
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Timber 1024YYYY-191607
Does it work, or do your linked apps/shortcuts get lost in that?
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heyflorin 1024YYYY-191611
Thanks all
19:23
Do you guys know if the run short cut action works when the shirt can you share it with someone else?
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Timber 1024YYYY-192335
That’s the issue I was having lol
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heyflorin 1024YYYY-192338
Say I have a run short cut action set to a specific shortcut but that shortcut does not exist initially on the new users device.
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Timber 1024YYYY-192346
Like it works, if the other shortcut is there
19:23
But if it isn’t it doesn’t work
19:23
You have to install them all once
19:24
Then install again
19:24
And then they link
19:24
That’s what I was talking about before
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heyflorin 1024YYYY-192415
It’ll just a blank course electric cut right? Even if that shortcut is eventually added.
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Timber 1024YYYY-192421
Correct
19:24
That’s what I found when I did it
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heyflorin 1024YYYY-192430
That’s annoying.
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Timber 1024YYYY-192435
Tell me about it lol
19:24
My fix was just to do two sets of installs with the second as a replacement and then I issued a report to Apple
19:24
With a bug report
19:25
But it’s annoying AF
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Chewyy 1024YYYY-192534
You can store the shortcut on icloud maybe
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Timber 1024YYYY-192613
It still has to be downloaded to the device though
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heyflorin 1024YYYY-192622
Is there a a URL scheme that well take input from the get all my Shortcuts action?
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Timber 1024YYYY-192623
Like you can’t call it from iCloud and then run it from iCloud.
19:26
No, I attempted that too.... it seriously fails as you have to stop the install shortcut to actually install the individuals items
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heyflorin 1024YYYY-192658
I am vaguely remember ring that there is some kind of URL scheme with the old workflow app that allowed you to run a shortcut/workflow
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Timber 1024YYYY-192713
0.o I’d be interested to know if that’s true
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heyflorin 1024YYYY-192841
By passing the shortcut name. So I think you would get all shortcuts into a list combine it into text then match the short cut name with RegEx. Then use the URL scheme passing the shortcut name to launch it.
19:29
I guess I need to explore this because my shortcut heavily relies on running X ternal Shortcuts and I do it all the time in order to pull up the menu without using a bunch of repeats.
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Timber 1024YYYY-192953
@heyflorin, let me know if you find any solutions, they would be valuable to me as well
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-192959
there is a url scheme in shortcuts, that's how the home screen opens them (edited)
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heyflorin 1024YYYY-193032
Right, but it would need to run it without prompting the user.
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-193043
can't you use run shortcut?
19:30
I haven't been following this
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Timber 1024YYYY-193056
@ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL), basically....
19:31
Here let me copy paste from my bug report to Apple
19:31
1. Create 2 shortcuts, one called Shortcut A and one called Shortcut B 2. Shortcut A includes either the “Run Shortcut” field or something that would open the referenced data in a specific app (Instagram, Chrome, etc.). 3. Share using the iCloud link to another device that does not have Shortcut B installed (or does not have the app installed). 4. Note that as soon as it is installed, the reference to Shortcut B or the app is removed, rather than the user being prompted to install it, or alternatively, being told that it needs an additional component to work. Expected Results: The shortcut should keep the reference but then fail to run with an error such as: “This shortcut requires an additional shortcut. “Shortcut B” to be installed to run. Install the needed component and run again.”
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heyflorin 1024YYYY-193227
If you’re using run shortcut in a shortcut you’re sharing with other people and they don’t happen to have that shortcut that is being referenced, it will erase the reference all together. And even if they install the previously required shortcut that parameter isn’t updated and that action does not allow you to specify a variable.
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-193230
why not make a helper shortcut c that installs a and b
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Timber 1024YYYY-193241
Because when you install A
19:32
It deletes the reference to B
19:32
and if B sends back to A, then it removes the reference to A
19:33
it's a chicken and the egg issue basically
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-193306
oh it does require you to not use circular things
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Timber 1024YYYY-193306
You can't have one without the other
19:33
Yep
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-193320
wait
19:33
can't you open a shortcut with a variable
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Timber 1024YYYY-193332
What do you mean?
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-193352
oh nvm I thought there was a way
19:33
yes there is
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heyflorin 1024YYYY-193402
I think what he's saying is... Don't use Run Shortcut until all important shortcuts are installed?
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-193409
do run shortcut and scroll to the bottom
19:34
it has a variables section
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Timber 1024YYYY-193421
Huh...
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-193422
so set a variable to the name of the shortcut you want to open
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heyflorin 1024YYYY-193423
What whaaaa
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Harley Hicks 1024YYYY-193425
@heyflorin i has a roku
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-193427
then it won't remove the referenc
19:34
e
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Harley Hicks 1024YYYY-193434
I want to test
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heyflorin 1024YYYY-193439
Yaaaas @Harley Hicks
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-193459
this is helpful, I might be able to actually distribute my shortcuts
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heyflorin 1024YYYY-193506
I'll get it ready for you a little later tonighf. Have to resolve this "Run Shortcut" issue.
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Timber 1024YYYY-193519
pfg, have you tested it
19:35
If so, I'm down to see that work
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-193527
haven't tested
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heyflorin 1024YYYY-193533
@ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) I haven't verified but if true; that is a great find.
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-193533
1 sec
19:36
can confirm it works
19:36
just tested
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Timber 1024YYYY-193631
Huh
19:36
Okay....
19:36
Even with the install sequence?>
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-193702
it's a variable
19:37
there's no way for the shortcut to be not found
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heyflorin 1024YYYY-193709
I mean yeah
19:37
What error do you get if it doesn't exist?
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-193821
Shortcut not found
19:38
Make sure a valid shortcut is selected in the action
19:38
and the action stays there
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Timber 1024YYYY-194124
Oh shit that's awesome.
19:41
Can you send me a screenshot of exactly what you have?
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1024YYYY-194148
oh good catch on setting a variable and then using that to run the shortcut. that’s clever. i hope apple fixes the issue though.
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heyflorin 1024YYYY-194205
Game changer for sure
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-194240
19:42
posted in the wrong discord at first whoops
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Timber 1024YYYY-194304
LMAO
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-194308
what's the bug report that apple has
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Timber 1024YYYY-194311
The first part, is that the shortcut?
19:43
I put it in
19:43
One sec let me get you the ID
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-194320
yeah text is the name of the shortcut
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Timber 1024YYYY-194337
Nice
19:43
Good call
19:44
Referenced Apps and Shortcuts that Aren’t installed ID: 45486141
19:44
For the Apple Bug Report
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-194423
oh it deletes things when the reference isn't found yeah
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Timber 1024YYYY-194433
If you wanna dupe it out, that might not be a bad idea to make sure there's more than one report
19:44
Under IOS + SDK> SiriKit
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-194507
I saw the variable thing a while ago and I thought it could be an easy way to do switch/case but it makes shortcuts much harder to install and probably isn't worth it
19:45
is there no way to report siri shortcuts bugs?
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Timber 1024YYYY-194551
You have to do it through Sirikit
19:46
If you read their 2.1 release ntoes that's where they want it under
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-194615
ok
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Timber 1024YYYY-194637
"When filing a bug, please use the following format: [Product]: Choose Product > iOS + SDK > SiriKit [Classification]: Bug or Suggestion"
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-194639
I don't have 2.1
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Timber 1024YYYY-194647
Same, jsut 2.0
19:46
I don't see anywhere else to submit it though
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-194744
also couldn't you install a referencing b without variables by installing a and having it remove the action, installing b, and then reinstalling a
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Timber 1024YYYY-194752
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-194752
variables work well though
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Timber 1024YYYY-194823
You can't have a shortcut delete another shortcut, can you?
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-194837
doesn't it ask when it installs shortcuts?
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Timber 1024YYYY-194843
Honestly what I really want is a way to download a folder or collection
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-194845
it will just ask to replace and you say replace the old one
19:48
yes folders would be great
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Timber 1024YYYY-194853
Oh yes
19:48
That was my fix
19:49
But for me, I have like 6 shortcuts
19:49
I basically had to install 6
19:49
then install them all again
19:49
lol
19:49
It was stupid extra work
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Harley Hicks 1024YYYY-194929
I’m trying to figure out if this is something I can solve with RH but I don’t think it is.
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-194936
I should actually finish my shortcut
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Timber 1024YYYY-194951
I mean, is there a way to download shortcuts as a .zip?
19:50
Because if so then hypothetiucally one could install all the shortcuts at once
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-195013
sure just combine them into a zip
19:50
you have to install them all manually though
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Harley Hicks 1024YYYY-195028
You could, and then in your Shortcut unzip and install them
19:50
Can’t you call each one, one by one?
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-195056
the installation shortcut could just have them base64ed and open them
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heyflorin 1024YYYY-195108
How can you share a direct link to a shortcut I stored in Dropbox? I'm using this URL scheme to import directly into shortcuts but I'm betting the Dropbox link is not a direct link. workflow://import-workflow/?url=https://www.dropbox.com/s/ilmy09gu7vgeg80/RV%20Setup.shortcut?dl=0
Shared with Dropbox
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-195121
?dl=1
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Timber 1024YYYY-195129
^That
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heyflorin 1024YYYY-195130
Tried
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-195138
dropbox is really bad about direct links
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Timber 1024YYYY-195154
This is where I say use Github lol
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heyflorin 1024YYYY-195157
Shared with Dropbox
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Timber 1024YYYY-195200
That's what I did with mine and it worked Great
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heyflorin 1024YYYY-195209
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Timber 1024YYYY-195212
it's also why I want @Harley Hicks to support private RoutineHub links XD
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Harley Hicks 1024YYYY-195217
I’m actually thinking that is something I could solve.
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Timber 1024YYYY-195239
Which thing? The hosting?
19:52
Cus that definitely could
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Harley Hicks 1024YYYY-195254
Yes.
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Timber 1024YYYY-195306
Hey, I said it like a week ago, I still stand by that request!
19:53
I think it would be great
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-195325
I could make some automatic thing that generates a shortcut to install many shortcuts from a list of urls
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Timber 1024YYYY-195335
My curent fix is a private GitHub page, and its meh as I only get it free for so long LOL
19:53
@ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) I will definitely use that if you make it
19:54
And put a thnk you note in my shortcut 😉
19:54
XD
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-195450
how would you use a shortcut to install another shortcut?
19:55
is it the workflow://import-workflow?
19:55
then open urls
19:56
also is there a way to detect if a shortcut is installed?
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Timber 1024YYYY-195620
If statement
19:56
But otherwise not really
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-200259
I dont think a generator would be that helpful for a 5 action thing but I can make one
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Timber 1024YYYY-200537
Does it actually install?
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1024YYYY-201209
oh I think you need an open urls action
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heyflorin 1024YYYY-233935
@Harley Hicks if your still around. My shortcut is ready to test. Finally.
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heyflorin 1025YYYY-022602
The link is up and running with everything stored on RoutineHub. Curious to have acre people try it. https://routinehub.co/shortcut/475
Control your Roku device with your voice!
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-052939
@heyflorin I downloaded it. I’ll test it tonight!
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Timber 1025YYYY-061752
@Harley Hicks You around?
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-061902
What’s up?
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Timber 1025YYYY-061914
Just be aware, got my first notifcation when Mike updated RoutinePub. The link it sent me to see my notifications was wrong: https://routinepub.co/notifications
06:19
Just wanted to let you know
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-062128
In the email?
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Timber 1025YYYY-062133
Yeah
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-062150
You’re the best. I’ll check it out
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Timber 1025YYYY-062155
:)!
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-065111
@Timber Fixed that and the profile_user.username bug I found from your link yesterday.
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Timber 1025YYYY-065124
Nice!
06:51
Glad to hear thanks!
06:52
I’ll keep hunting 🐝🐞🐛
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-065259
I appreciate it!
06:56
By the way, I shoutout to the users who find bugs for me! https://routinehub.co/changelog/
RoutineHub is a community to find, share and version-control your Siri Shortcuts.
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Timber 1025YYYY-065738
Aww thanks!
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-071854
@Timber Do you get notified when a feature request on https://feedback.routinehub.co gets marked as completed?
This is the place for you to vote, discuss and share ideas about RoutineHub!
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Timber 1025YYYY-072159
Lol
07:22
And yes I do
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-072207
Ok cool.
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Timber 1025YYYY-072210
I saw the completion, thanks!
07:22
It doesn’t notify on RH
07:22
Just via email
07:22
But I think it requires you to sign up for an account through that side of the platform
07:22
As I didn’t at first
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-072252
That makes sense. I'm using Fider so that I don't have to maintain another thing.
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Timber 1025YYYY-072312
Yeah makes sense
07:23
I would just say if there’s a way to require the creation of an account with an email to post, that might be good
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-072337
I'll see if I can change that.
07:29
It looks like they've added that as a login method. If you add your email address to your account (via settings), you can use your email address to login. Just tested this to confirm that it works.
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Timber 1025YYYY-073018
Yeah, it just didn’t ask at first... Not entirely sure why. I just remember the first few suggestions I put in I didn’t get notifications for until I added my email
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-073234
Ah. That also makes sense.
07:32
I'm tempted to remove all oauth methods and just have email.
07:33
As we now have the option to use custom OAuth providers I would like to prevent users from Signing-Up in any other way except OAuth.
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Timber 1025YYYY-073319
That probably would work
07:33
It’s not like there’s any private information there...
07:34
The other option would be if you’re hosting stuff on GitHub for RH, just use the GitHub support forum?
07:34
That tends to work well
07:34
As its free and easy to sign up for and manage
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-073516
I'm using BitBucket, which has a similar feature. I just really like Fider's method of handling things. I'll think about it a bit.
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Timber 1025YYYY-073605
Fair enough :). Finder seems to be fine so far
07:36
TBH
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-073801
Here's Bitbucket's. Let me know what you think. https://bitbucket.org/hmhrex/routinehub/issues
07:38
It's free for me as well.
07:38
And anonymous users can add issues
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Timber 1025YYYY-073904
It’s got a nicer submission format, but TBH, I think simpler is better for this... No one needs to use HTMl for bug reports or suggestions in my opinion
07:39
Lol
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-073944
Maybe I should build it myself 😂
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Timber 1025YYYY-073955
Lol, don’t make your life too complicated!
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-074019
Well it might actually be easier to hook into things like existing user accounts.
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Timber 1025YYYY-074045
I mean, I am down, but just don’t kill yourself here 😆
07:41
If you do would it be just for features/bugs or also for like a forum type of thing?
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-074124
Fair enough. I have until December to figure that out. That's when Fider goes from free to $40/month
07:41
No forum, just a feature/bug tracker
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Timber 1025YYYY-074156
Oh if it costs money then yeah, it makes more sense to do it yourself
07:41
I figured it was free
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-074239
It is currently. It's been in beta for a bit. I've really liked what they've been doing, but after November I'm going to have to move it to my own host to continue using it for free.
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Timber 1025YYYY-074241
I mean... Hell, just having an email account and an excel spreadsheet with suggestions and bugs does this... Or a google submission form. It doesn’t need to be complicated
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-081033
Oh I'll make it complicated.
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Timber 1025YYYY-081721
Lolol
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Chewyy 1025YYYY-104537
@Harley Hicks
10:45
What is the RoutineHub passcode it wants
10:47
Nvm
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1025YYYY-104756
you make it yourself haha
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heyflorin 1025YYYY-110224
@Harley Hicks This morning after your update, it was still asking me for a password even though I had already generated a key. The password prompt was number only. Also, selecting RoutinePub from the share sheet didn’t seem to work. I might be late to report this, so these issues may already be resolved.
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-110342
Which update? And password for the site?
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heyflorin 1025YYYY-110651
Yeah the user password
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-110743
Is this within RoutinePub?
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heyflorin 1025YYYY-110818
11:08
Sorry wrong photo
11:09
11:09
See video
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1025YYYY-110950
did you read the setup info when setting that up the first time?
11:10
you will need to enter the passcode that you setup whenever RP accesses your account
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heyflorin 1025YYYY-111059
Oh, is it some sort of pin?
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1025YYYY-111111
yeah when you entered your api key you set it up
11:11
it’s not your account password
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heyflorin 1025YYYY-111139
Apparently I did not read that.
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1025YYYY-111143
if you forgot it you can use the Delete Saved API Key function to reset it haha
11:11
or the change api key function, either works
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heyflorin 1025YYYY-111513
Alright so I deleted it and am running it again. It’s asking for the passcode; but since I never set it up, how can I re initiate that process?
11:16
Or does that just mean “create it now?”
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1025YYYY-111721
you’re creating it now
11:17
if you read the screen before that it says the next two steps are to add the key and create a code
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heyflorin 1025YYYY-111915
Alright. Did that. Now I went to update a Shortcut, and the first thing it does it ask for That pass key again. After entering it, it shows me a list of shortcuts to update. Shouldn’t it already have known that I was update a specific shortcut since I used the share sheet?
11:22
Actually read it this time! When Running RP from the the share sheet asking for the pin makes sense, but asking for which Shortcut to update, doesn’t seem right?
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heyflorin 1025YYYY-113132
Also there seems to be a quick look left in there. When I update a shortcut.
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1025YYYY-114417
it is impossible to tell what shortcut is being updated via the share sheet. the share sheet does not give us the name, only the url
11:45
@heyflorin please reinstall 2.0 from the website and let me know if the quick look is still there. i accidentally published it that way for about 30 seconds and then replaced the version. you may have gotten it during that window.
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Timber 1025YYYY-114926
Mike your new update makes me want all the cool new features in my own shortcuts. Goddamn you! XD
😂 2
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heyflorin 1025YYYY-115004
Ah, got it. Thanks l.
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-115106
Maybe Mike needs to create MenuKit
11:51
lol
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Timber 1025YYYY-115115
XD
11:52
I gotta better understand how to install from within the app too... Because I couldn't do that myself
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-115232
Mike is a Shortcut Ninja
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1025YYYY-115821
y’all know i’m not even a real software developer? sometimes i figure little things out and fix stuff for the devs at my job but this is as close as i come, aside from some basic html, css, and bash. 😂
11:58
there are people out there way better at shortcuts than i am!
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-115906
Yeah, but you had an idea and you executed it. It's a great contribution. (edited)
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Timber 1025YYYY-115911
Possibly, but your mind is really creative in the ways you do things
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1025YYYY-115917
thanks guys haha
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Timber 1025YYYY-115918
And your execution of it is excellent
11:59
I make silly little shortcuts.
11:59
You do a lot more 😛
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1025YYYY-115943
i always feel weird getting praise. impostor syndrome or something.
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-120030
Imposter Syndrome is real. I'm still waiting to be found out.
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Timber 1025YYYY-120611
Also I am making a totally useless but fun shortcut for you @Harley Hicks
12:06
I hope no one ever uses it XD
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-120624
Can't wait!
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Timber 1025YYYY-121325
Okay, someone is going to need to explain to me briefly what Base64 really is... I.e. Mike, if I want to include a file like you did in RoutinePub, how do I get from the "Press OK to install" and the extraction of the .zip?
12:13
Cus looking at the code you used in the dictionary made no sense to me
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-121410
It's an encoding. (edited)
12:14
Base64 is a group of similar binary-to-text encoding schemes that represent binary data in an ASCII string format by translating it into a radix-64 representation. The term Base64 originates from a specific MIME content transfer encoding. Each Base64 digit represents exactly ...
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Timber 1025YYYY-121453
I mean... OK, but how does one make that lol?
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-121458
So you can basically encode a file as text.
12:15
I believe there's a function in Shortcuts for it.
12:15
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Timber 1025YYYY-121607
Oh so I just select a file I want to encode, encode it, and then copy that string to the dictionary?
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-121614
yuppers
12:16
I believe
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Timber 1025YYYY-121619
That's way easier than I was expecting.....
12:16
lol
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-121625
haha!
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1025YYYY-121637
12:16
i have a separate shortcut that packs crypto for distribution
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Timber 1025YYYY-121759
So Mike, if I wanted to install UpdateKit this way, I could just export the shortcut to files, Encode it like this, then follow the same steps you did in RoutinePub and it would decode it and install it? (Obviously it would only be whatever version that I encoded, so it might need to be updated, but that's the basic gist right?)
12:18
Im essentially making this shortcut to try out everything that I am seeing over the past 24 hours, so just trying to get a handle on it...
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1025YYYY-121853
if you follow the exact steps in that screenshot and hit copy on the share sheet you can paste that copied data into the shortcut and then do what I did in routinepub
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Timber 1025YYYY-121913
Alright cool.
12:19
Any objections to me doing that with UpdateKit?
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1025YYYY-122008
eh, i’m not a super huge fan of it since people will then have to update it right away if you’re packing an old version but it’s doable.
12:20
with crypto we aren’t going to send any updates so it’s always up to date
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Timber 1025YYYY-122030
Ahh gotcha, fair enough
12:20
OK, I'll stick to the old way then 😃
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1025YYYY-122040
you do it if you want lol
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Timber 1025YYYY-122052
LOL, okay 😛
12:21
I mostly just want to try it out and see if it works
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1025YYYY-122104
just test it pretty thoroughly.
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Timber 1025YYYY-122112
Realistically the thing I am making no one will ever use it XD
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1025YYYY-122134
delete UK from your phone or rename it to something totally different to see if the installer works
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Timber 1025YYYY-122204
Yup
12:22
The dictionary is just text right?
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1025YYYY-122303
yeah
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heyflorin 1025YYYY-125615
Uhh... Can't tell if I just found a new breakthrough with shortcuts of if I'm late in the game...
12:59
Get File (ZIP of a series of shortcuts) Extract Archive Repeat with Each Open In (Shortcuts App) End Repeat
13:00
Installs all shortcuts in the zip file one by one.
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-130037
Do you have to interact with each install?
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Timber 1025YYYY-130226
Any reason when using RoutinePub it would publish without an icon? :B
13:02
A simple shortcut that determines if it is running on an iPad or iPhone from screen width
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heyflorin 1025YYYY-130324
@Harley Hicks It open's the in-app "Get Shortcut" dialog.
13:03
Wonder if I can leverage the shortcuts://import-workflow URI to get around this.
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heyflorin 1025YYYY-131056
You can always save it to local icloud/dropbox but getting the direct file URL to pass to the URI is the challenge, if that can happen; installing a group of Shortcuts in seconds would be possible.
13:11
Without user interaction.
13:11
*Unless they already have it, in which case they'd get a (Do you want to replace) notification.
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Timber 1025YYYY-131223
nvm it loaded for my question
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Chewyy 1025YYYY-141224
@Harley Hicks
14:12
The continue with RoutineHub and Create and add version buttons do the same thing now
14:12
The continue with RoutineHub isn’t acting as intended
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-142434
In a meeting. I’ll take a look at it soon
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-145202
@Chewyy I'm experiencing the opposite, both buttons are going to the RoutinePub page.
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-150051
Nah, it works fine. But if you click back, they both will go to whatever page you first clicked.
15:00
I can fix that.
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heyflorin 1025YYYY-150335
@Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) If i'm trying to implement UpdateKit on a shortcut that uses a "Run Shortcut" as a few of it's conditionals, but I'm worried that most of the time UpdateKit will not trigger since I'd have to include it at the bottom, and for some of those conditionals; it'd never get there.
15:04
Is this a scenario where you pretty much have to use it at the top?
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1025YYYY-151142
yeah you could include at the top in that situation
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-154532
@Chewyy I fixed that edge-case. What's your RoutineHub username so I can give you a shout out on the changelog page?
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heyflorin 1025YYYY-154610
It looks like the old Workflow app used to have a "silent" install option in the URI.
15:46
But not working currently.
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-154628
Interesting. I wonder if they'll bring that back. (edited)
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heyflorin 1025YYYY-154708
I know that shortcuts:// works for the import-workflow action and you don't have to use workflow:// but I'm not sure about the rest.
15:49
The but that the person describes in that reddit post is also valid. When you do a "Open URL's with an import-workflow URI from the main shortcut list, it gives you an "OK" button with nothing else on it.
15:49
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-154948
lol.
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Chewyy 1025YYYY-160055
Bdeavilla @Harley Hicks
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-160414
@Chewyy 👍
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Chewyy 1025YYYY-160713
Is there a way to change username on RH?
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-162714
Yup! From your Settings page.
16:27
It will change your profile URL though.
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heyflorin 1025YYYY-165034
@Harley Hicks You might hate me:
16:51
I added those dependencies to Routine hub anyways, because I'd rather manage releases through RoutineHub than another platform... Added disclaimers and links to the main Shortcut for each dependency.
16:51
The initial static file install is done through GitHub links.
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Harley Hicks 1025YYYY-165200
Looks good!
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heyflorin 1025YYYY-165206
It's in a good place now if you want to try it out: https://routinehub.co/shortcut/475
Control your Roku device with your voice!
16:52
At least I think so...
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heyflorin 1025YYYY-235502
Okay so this little “okay” button bug has been showing up more often. Now it’s showing up when I try updating a Shortcut using UpdateKit @Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub)
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1026YYYY-000107
what shortcut are you updating?
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heyflorin 1026YYYY-000126
My own it’s called RV: Setup
00:01
I wonder if this is an isolated issue. (To my device)
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1026YYYY-000154
my theory about the cause of this is that shortcut is trying to install another shortcut in that “add shortcut” screen but then also continue running the first shortcut which causes the app to freak out
00:02
opening the URL should be the end of the shortcut
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heyflorin 1026YYYY-000249
Right. That makes sense. I do remember adding “end shortcut” to lots of my own “Run Shortcut” actions.
00:03
Or rather exit shortcut
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1026YYYY-000305
if you missed one that would explain it
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heyflorin 1026YYYY-000332
Well, the UpdateKit check occurs immediately
00:04
So should I have added “exit workflow” after calling UpdateKit?
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1026YYYY-000523
probably. but then you will have a problem where your shortcut never goes past that point
00:05
that’s why putting it at the end is recommended
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heyflorin 1026YYYY-000531
There's as video of it happening
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1026YYYY-000622
yeah the first shortcut moved on to that menu while the Shortcuts app was still trying to do an installation through the little installer screen. That’s the problem I think. I haven’t done any real research into this but that’s what it looks like in the cases I’ve seen.
00:07
try getting the updatekit exit mode and terminate if it shows they pressed install.
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heyflorin 1026YYYY-000742
So wait. Is the "don't put UpdateKit at the top of your shorcut" a hard don't or is it just... A slap on the wrist
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1026YYYY-000802
it’s not recommended. i have no idea what possible consequences might result.
00:08
i run it first in routinepub because i built a lot of workarounds into RP to prevent these things. (edited)
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heyflorin 1026YYYY-000917
In my case though, with almost 260 actions in this setup shortcut, there are too many areas where more shortcuts are run which makes it hard to put the update check at the bottom.
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1026YYYY-001006
then try getting the exit mode and see if terminating on update installation solves it. i don’t know for sure if it will but it might. it would let it exit without additional user input, which is what i think it needs.
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heyflorin 1026YYYY-001058
Wouldn't that fix lie inside UpdateKit though?
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1026YYYY-001103
no?
00:11
how do you mean
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heyflorin 1026YYYY-001200
The "Install" menu option is summoned from UpdateKit right?
00:12
If so I have no way of knowing if the user selected it.
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1026YYYY-001222
yes you do
00:12
read the exit mode
00:12
it’s in the documentation
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heyflorin 1026YYYY-001251
Say what
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1026YYYY-001257
00:15
ugh there should be five exit modes listed there
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heyflorin 1026YYYY-001601
Okay so apparently this is all new to me. I always assumed that once you run another shortcut from the original, itll only return if it's terminates;.
00:16
Yes I did see that Install wasn't on that list.
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1026YYYY-001822
I fixed the page
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heyflorin 1026YYYY-001904
Yep still confused. Where would I put that if statement?
00:19
00:19
Sorry I meant
00:19
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1026YYYY-002047
well... how do you pass input into an action?
00:21
if you were going to run and if statement on the output of a text box what would you do with the if statement?
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heyflorin 1026YYYY-002243
If contains “Installed”
00:23
I suppose?
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1026YYYY-002356
that’s one way, or you could get the dictionary value and use equals
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heyflorin 1026YYYY-002400
I mean if UK is reporting back with output it would have to terminate and come back to my Shortcut, wouldn’t it? In which case I get the return results.
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1026YYYY-002407
yes
00:24
that’s what is already happening. the problem is your shortcut keeps moving ahead while the app is trying to install a different shortcut
00:24
you need to stop it if something is being installed (edited)
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heyflorin 1026YYYY-002526
So get the dictionary value for the key Exit Mode. If contains install, then exit workflow...
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1026YYYY-002543
yep
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heyflorin 1026YYYY-002601
That is pretty awesome that you thought of that.
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1026YYYY-002616
i needed it to force people to update routinepub haha (edited)
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heyflorin 1026YYYY-002817
So... that totally worked.
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1026YYYY-002820
in RP if there’s an update available and you choose an exit mode other than Installed Update then it tells you the update is required and doesn’t continue so people HAVE to be in the latest build. that’s important to avoid potentially breaking API changes. like when 2.0 came out today, Harley made API changes to support the management features, but those changes broke 1.x versions of RP. if people weren’t forced to update they’d be trying to use broken versions. (edited)
00:28
there ya go!
00:28
it’s 1:30am here so i’m off to bed now. glad it’s working for you.
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heyflorin 1026YYYY-002944
However haven't we just identified a documentable fix for putting the UK check at the top of a Shortcut? Or do you think my situation is isolated?
00:30
Oh wow yeah good night! Thanks for the home!
00:30
Help*
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1026YYYY-003139
it’s a fix for that one particular issue but it doesn’t solve the other problems like if the user presses cancel during the updatekit flow it exit out of your shortcut entirely before your actual workflow runs, which they might not expect and might make them think your shortcut is broken.
00:31
it also doesn’t solve the problem where your shortcut takes longer to start up because it has to run the update check
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heyflorin 1026YYYY-003209
Right
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1026YYYY-003210
anyway, good night!
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Harley Hicks 1026YYYY-072122
@heyflorin I was making a ton of homemade french fries for family and friends all last night, so I didn't get a chance to test it out.
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heyflorin 1026YYYY-095620
Well that sounds way better than testing a shortcut. Hope it was delicious
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Harley Hicks 1026YYYY-095705
Oh they were.
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Harley Hicks 1026YYYY-102353
@everyone Is anyone having issues connecting to the site?
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Brendan 🦿 1026YYYY-102427
Nope. I can access it fine
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Chewyy 1026YYYY-102442
Nope. Fine for me
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Harley Hicks 1026YYYY-102452
Awesome. Thanks.
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Timber 1026YYYY-130942
Ugh. I wish I had a way to show an alert while a command was being repeated and then end the shortcut when the user presses OK lol
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1026YYYY-131008
Scriptable can do that
13:10
But it requires scriptable
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Timber 1026YYYY-134559
What is Scriptable?
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1026YYYY-134636
It’s another app that lets you make shortcuts in JavaScript
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Timber 1026YYYY-134653
I assume I'd need to know Java to code it though?
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1026YYYY-134717
You would need to know JavaScript yes
13:47
(Not Java)
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Timber 1026YYYY-134812
Right... that... (Can you tell I have no idea what I am doing XD?)
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Harley Hicks 1026YYYY-140223
As a dev. I think it’s great how many people are getting interested in programming because of Shortcuts.
14:03
Even if you aren't "programming" when making a Shortcut, you're still figuring out logic and patterns that are applicable.
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heyflorin 1026YYYY-140358
Fundamental programming constructs too! Loops, Conditionals, Input/Output, it's AWESOME.
14:04
I would argue that you are definitely programming; it's just more of an on rails experience.
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Harley Hicks 1026YYYY-140612
I can see that. I liken it more to Scratch or another "visual programming" language.
14:06
But that's programming, so there you go.
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heyflorin 1026YYYY-140818
Totally. I think at the very least it will remove the fear element. People are always like "oh I can't program, I'm not smart enough for that." If only they knew, they program in their daily lives.
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Harley Hicks 1026YYYY-140830
For real
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heyflorin 1026YYYY-140833
Shortcuts is a gateway drug.
14:09
Not a groundbreaking idea either. Just well executed and resources put behind it. Not to mention an insanely large user base.
14:10
Harley, you were smart to jump on the opportunity to be one of the first aggregators. You've done a half years worth of work in a fraction of the time.
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Harley Hicks 1026YYYY-141129
Thanks @heyflorin 😊 And I have no intention of slowing down.
14:13
I remember waking up the morning after iOS 12 had released and telling my wife about this really cool new thing I had been messing with all night called Shortcuts. I told her that there wasn't a great community for it yet, and I decided right then that I would build it.
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heyflorin 1026YYYY-145427
That's awesome! My wife would literally go "oh.... cool" and then go back to try to decide which Instagram photo to post. (edited)
14:55
On a related note; wouldn't be too hard to implement this into a database and out it up on RH as a resource (unless it goes against your plans for the site).
14:56
You are already kind of building a database by having people choose when publishing a Shortcut.
14:57
I hate dynamic Reddit lists...
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Harley Hicks 1026YYYY-145842
Yeah, on the left side of the home page you can see any app that is included in a Shortcut. However, sometimes that's just launching an app, not actual Shortcut support for that app.
14:58
I've actually thought about building out a resources section. But haven't gotten to that yet.
14:59
My wife's pretty supportive. She's cute. I'm not on Facebook, so she did some marketing to our friends and family there for me without me prompting. I just came home one day and she showed me.
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heyflorin 1026YYYY-150909
My offer still stands if you want help, I'm fairly busy with 2 kiddos, and my Web dev job, but this is near and dear to my heart so feel free to ask if you need it. I mainly work in the lamp stack, PHP, Javascript, MySQL, etc... We do WordPress at my agency.
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Harley Hicks 1026YYYY-154152
Ok cool! I'll definitely let you know. The stack right now is Python/Django/MySQL
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15:42
And then using Bulma and jQuery
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Timber 1027YYYY-140417
Good afternoon all!
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Harley Hicks 1027YYYY-141140
Hey @Timber !
14:11
I've had a shitty day. hold me. or just tell me a funny story.
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Timber 1027YYYY-141219
Oh, I'm sorry to hear :/... (edited)
14:13
Not sure I am much for stories
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Harley Hicks 1027YYYY-141430
damn. That's fine. I have my music.
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Timber 1027YYYY-141526
I have been doing a lot of homework... Been learning a lot about serial killers and serial rapists... It's been an interesting few days of research...
14:15
lol
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Harley Hicks 1027YYYY-141621
hahaha. Oh man. I'll be honest, any mention of sexual crimes of any nature make me anxious. I can't even watch SVU (which my wife loves).
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Timber 1027YYYY-141912
Can't say that I am much of a fan of SVU either.
14:19
Working as an EMT makes me get used to working around unfortunate incidents, but you can never be immune from that stuff, it's just so awful.
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Harley Hicks 1027YYYY-142000
For sure
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Timber 1027YYYY-142338
May I ask what happened that screwed up your day? If you don't want to share I totally understand.
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Harley Hicks 1027YYYY-143044
Ah. A few things. I'm pretty upfront about this so that others feel comfortable talking about it, but I have anxiety and depression disorders. Anyway. I started a depressive episode yesterday. My dog who just turned 8 this year has had degenerative myelopathy (slowly becoming paralyzed from the middle down, although you probably know that being an EMT :P) for about 4 months. We've known the end was coming soon, but I think I have to have her put down in the next 2 weeks. Then my mom stopped in today to pick something up, and she mentioned that she finally got the diagnosis for her sister (long story, she's been hiding it, etc.) and she has Stage 4 inoperable cancer. And to top things off, my kids (4 of them, 5 and under) have been using too much toilet paper and our sewer line is now backed up. I just discovered that this morning and of course no one's open till Monday. Which is money literally down the toilet.
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14:30
That's my sob story. Enjoy.
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Timber 1027YYYY-143516
Oy, I'm so sorry about your dog and your family... That's really rough to have happen all at the same time. As for the toilet, yeah... I know that life too... When I was younger my mom's place had similar problems from time to time. Was always a kick in the face when shit like that happened... Take it a step at a time. You'll get through this, you seem to be really strong from what I have seen. (And if you have depression, I assume you have a theapist, make sure to make a stop there sooner than later <3)
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Harley Hicks 1027YYYY-143523
But today's Humble Bundle (Day of the Devs) was a nice surprise! Can't wait to play some of these. Been waiting to try Yooka Laylee, Hyper Light Drifter and Rime
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Timber 1027YYYY-143527
If you ever need to talk, I'm here 😃
14:35
Humble Bundle?
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Harley Hicks 1027YYYY-143550
Vidya games
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Timber 1027YYYY-143550
(And wow that smiley was so unfitting)
14:35
Ahhh nice nice
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Harley Hicks 1027YYYY-143636
Thanks man, I appreciate it. It's been a rough life, and I'm trying to make the best of it. My therapist has been great though. The meds help too. lol.
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Timber 1027YYYY-143805
Yeah I know that life well. I'm a psych major among other things, so I am a huge advocate of competent and good therapy and psychiatry as well.
14:38
So I'm glad to hear you're in good hands
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Harley Hicks 1027YYYY-143827
Yeah. I stayed away from therapists for 12 years. It was bad.
14:40
@everyone Anybody live near San Francisco and want a free VIP ticket to Day of the Devs (http://www.dayofthedevs.com/)?
14:40
hmu, first come, first serve
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Timber 1027YYYY-144151
Yeah, there's a lot of bad experiences, but if you find the right person adn the right fit, it makes all the difference in the world.
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Harley Hicks 1027YYYY-144229
My wife has been a huge help, but even then, I can't put everything on her. She's not a trained professional.
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Timber 1027YYYY-144336
Yeah, I hear that. I am often here for my friends too, but you have to know when to say "see someone else" because one can only care for others after caring for themselves frst.
14:43
As sad as that may be for us all
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Harley Hicks 1027YYYY-144523
I had that problem for awhile. I helped everyone. It really burned me out.
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Timber 1027YYYY-144605
Yeah I did that too at one point, learned my limits. It's really important to know them...
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Harley Hicks 1027YYYY-144650
During learning of all this this morning, I was watching The Neverending story with my kids, and this scene comes on. I was literally trying to not cry in front of my kids. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj-OpTHixpU
14:47
I feel like they only made this scene to make parents cry.
14:47
Freaking 80's hippy producers
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Timber 1027YYYY-150427
lol
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heyflorin 1027YYYY-183940
@Harley Hicks sorry dude! All I can say it, when it rains it pours, I’ve been there, not exactly but similar. I’ve always liked this quote: “Smooth sees don’t make good sailors.”
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Harley Hicks 1027YYYY-184037
@heyflorin thanks man. Much appreciated.
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Timber 1027YYYY-195453
ANyone around to help me figure something out?
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1027YYYY-195514
what?
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Timber 1027YYYY-195641
So I want to make a shortcut that downloads 6 other shortcuts... As in that's its entire purpose. I understand how to export them to a .tar and encode it base64 so that it can be downloaded. My question is how to be able to make it do all of that from a single link. In other words, I want to be able to upload the file to GitHub, and use the download link in the Shortcut. Would that/should that work? (edited)
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1027YYYY-195719
is there a way to untar files in shortcuts? I don't know much about the format
19:57
the easiest method would be storing newline seperated base64 strings of the files, then you can split at newline (edited)
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Timber 1027YYYY-195839
Alright sorry, I am still a little new to the base64 concept, explain to me how that would work then?
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1027YYYY-195853
base64 all the different shortcuts seperately
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Timber 1027YYYY-195857
And the TAR idea comes from what was done by Mike in UpdateKit
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1027YYYY-195917
tar just puts multiple files into a single file
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Timber 1027YYYY-195929
Oh lol
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1027YYYY-200107
so if you base64 each file and just put it into a single file with a newline between each one then you can split at newline
20:01
then you have multiple files, all base64ed and easily accessible in a single file
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Timber 1027YYYY-200400
Can you give me some more info on how I actually do that?
20:04
Like in Shortcuts I mean
20:04
I guess I could also just do a .zip instead?
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1027YYYY-200811
go over each shortcuts file
20:08
convert to base64
20:08
on each one seperately
20:08
then make a file on github containing each base64ed thing
20:09
you'd end up with a file like YmFzZTY0 YW5vdGhlciBmaWxl aG1tIGludGVyZXN0aW5n (edited)
20:09
where each line is one of your shortcuts
20:10
then in shortcuts you can download that
20:10
split at newline
20:10
repeat with each
20:10
unbase64
20:10
install
20:10
@Timber
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Timber 1027YYYY-201918
Huh okay...
20:19
I'll give it a try
20:19
Thanks
20:19
The install part, would be what exactly?
20:20
Just save to file, and open file?
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1027YYYY-202023
I guess?
20:20
not sure how you typically would install shortcuts from a shortcut
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Timber 1027YYYY-202115
lol ok
20:21
I'll look at UpdateKit and Crypto
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1027YYYY-202124
oh you can use extract files
20:21
and then just open file
20:21
that supports .tar or .zip
20:21
ok
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Timber 1027YYYY-202141
Yeah I have Decode>SaveFile>Extract>And then I guess Open each?
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1027YYYY-202155
yeah
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Timber 1027YYYY-202201
Okay
20:22
Thanks man
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Timber 1027YYYY-204600
Damn not working...
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1027YYYY-210442
@Timber are you storing them in one text file with separate lines or what?
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Timber 1027YYYY-212915
Finally got it...
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1027YYYY-212927
awesome
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Timber 1027YYYY-212939
Long story short, basically it wasn’t parsing it from GitHub, so I had to do just do it manually. It’s a lot more work, but it works so hey, whatever lol
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1027YYYY-212946
makes sense
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Timber 1027YYYY-212957
😃
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1028YYYY-011438
wonder why it wouldn’t work from github though. maybe github doesn’t link to the actual file, but a web page containing the file instead? that would definitely cause it to fail reading the text. hmmm
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spencer 1028YYYY-062515
I think Dropbox can link the direct file. It seems to work whenever I use js or json from there
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Harley Hicks 1028YYYY-064552
You can link to the raw file on Github. I’ve actually used that for something.
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1028YYYY-090708
click the raw button on a github file and it takes you to raw.githubusercontent.com/user/project/branch/path/file
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Timber 1028YYYY-140945
The way I had done it was to get the encoded text into a .txt, then uplaoded it to GitHub, used the RAW link and get content from link, but it wasn't working for whatever reason....
14:10
I am still not sure why it didn't work TBH
14:10
@Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub)
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1028YYYY-141108
huh it should work
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Timber 1028YYYY-141135
It would definitely be easier if I could do it, ideally with each text as a Dictionary and then just call each one, then I could upload it that way and just use the same download for the pack
14:13
Maybe I fucked something up, let me give it a try again...
14:19
Lol now it just crashes 😛
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Timber 1028YYYY-142826
14:28
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1028YYYY-142910
don't you have to choose a file to open?
14:29
oh wait
14:29
extract archive returns a list of files
14:29
so repeat with each
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Timber 1028YYYY-142953
It's just one right now...
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1028YYYY-142958
oh
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Timber 1028YYYY-143002
I can try naming it and opening one sec...
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1028YYYY-143034
also you might be able to open in without save file
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Timber 1028YYYY-143122
Even that crashes
14:31
I think tic rashes with the amount of text
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1028YYYY-143144
if you put a show result after each action you can see which part crashes
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Timber 1028YYYY-143259
Fails from the Get dictionary
14:33
Just checked, the JSON is valid
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1028YYYY-143334
do you need json? you can probably just do raw text
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Timber 1028YYYY-143342
i'll give that a try instead
14:36
Well now I am back to my previous error....
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1028YYYY-143654
what's the error?
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Timber 1028YYYY-143717
The irony is if I just remove the URL and paste the text it works lol
14:37
One sec, my phone is uploading the pic......slowly.....
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1028YYYY-143800
you can also try show resulting the text and see if it's right (edited)
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Timber 1028YYYY-143818
14:39
oh shit
14:39
I see the problem LOL
14:39
When it converts it from the URL
14:40
LMAO
14:40
It does that
14:40
And then it's of course invalid
14:40
Alright let me throw a get text....
14:42
Nope doesn't work... Not sure how to keep it from converting
14:42
But that's definitely where it fails
14:44
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1028YYYY-150315
why would you get text from the url? just pass the url into the get contents
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Timber 1028YYYY-150438
It has the same result either way
15:04
Which is the failure either way
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1028YYYY-150724
what’s below the show result?
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Timber 1028YYYY-151120
It fails above the show result...
15:11
The weird characters and emojis that are shown in that show result are what causes it to fail
15:11
The next up is a decode>Extract>Open
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1028YYYY-151253
pretty sure github is the problem
15:15
this isn’t going to work
15:15
just put the text in a text box
15:16
or try hosting the file somewhere else
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Timber 1028YYYY-170017
Yup! That's the plan
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Harley Hicks 1029YYYY-115708
Alright. I added @MEE6 to the server, and did some small configurations. This is my first server, and I only casually used Discord before starting this server, so if anybody has recommendations, make them heard! (edited)
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Timber 1029YYYY-122213
Nice!
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spencer 1029YYYY-130238
@Harley Hicks are you going to add a bot-commands server?
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Harley Hicks 1029YYYY-130335
Doesn't MEE6 have custom command features?
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1029YYYY-165558
What about it
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Harley Hicks 1029YYYY-165623
We may have our first spammer. Congrats @Amanda Allen !
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16:58
You’ve been warned @Amanda Allen.
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Brendan 🦿 1029YYYY-172112
They do have it.. you have to configure it through mee6's website @Harley Hicks
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Harley Hicks 1029YYYY-172220
Cool. Thanks @Brendan 🦿 . What kind of custom commands would people want around here?
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spencer 1029YYYY-181024
Maybe a way to link shortcuts on RoutineHub without typing the url. Kinda how like on r/jailbreak allows you to type the tweak name like [[Noctis]] and it will give you a link
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Harley Hicks 1029YYYY-181131
Interesting. I’ll keep that in mind. Currently names of Shortcuts aren’t unique. Maybe I should enforce that though...
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Timber 1029YYYY-183524
spam
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Harley Hicks 1029YYYY-183645
Banhammered.
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Timber 1029YYYY-184155
lol
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Timber 1029YYYY-190327
This is literally the most irrelevant thing, except that it is absolutely amazing and I had to share: https://twitter.com/kcpolice/status/1057009008064774144
BREAKING: WE HAVE RECOVERED THE STOLEN COLON. Thanks to a tip, officers found the giant, inflatable, pilfered intestine in a vacant house in the 7100 block of Virginia. No one in custody yet. Investigation is continuing. #stolencolon
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VanishingTacos 1029YYYY-190401
🤔
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Timber 1029YYYY-190639
LOL
19:06
That's about the right response
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Harley Hicks 1029YYYY-190705
@VanishingTacos ALIEN BOY (edited)
19:07
@Timber That's absolutely ridiculous. How does one steal something of that size?
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Timber 1029YYYY-190841
I was wondering that too...
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VanishingTacos 1029YYYY-190844
19:09
I want that outfit btw
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Timber 1029YYYY-190923
UPDATE, OCTOBER 29, 2018. 5 P.M.: THE KANSAS CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS RECOVERED THE STOLEN COLON! BREAKING: WE HAVE RECOVERED THE STOLEN COLON. Thanks to a tip, officers found the...
19:09
That's apparently how
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Harley Hicks 1029YYYY-191013
@VanishingTacos I actually found swim shorts with that design years ago and I've been wanting them since. Now that Oliver Tree is getting big, I feel like I'd just be a follower...
19:11
That's just insane. Haven't heard anything about that till now.
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Timber 1029YYYY-191536
lol
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1030YYYY-080938
🚨COMING SOON🚨 Publish or update a shortcut using a shortcut! https://t.co/7xCEY6hpFj
08:09
😏
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-081021
I think I need to get API routes up for publishing from scratch
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1030YYYY-081827
let me know when you’re all set and i’ll get to work integrating!
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-082023
Will do. I'm working on a site for my friend's fundraiser, so I've had to pause a bit. The site should be out by Thursday, so I should be able to get that done soon.
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1030YYYY-082048
cool deal. looking forward to making 3.0 so soon after 2.0!
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-082056
Haha!
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Timber 1030YYYY-082516
So who’s watching this morning?
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-082537
Oh man, I wish. I have so much to do.
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1030YYYY-083224
not me, boring event imo
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1030YYYY-085358
ugh i might watch part of it anyway just because IM bored lol
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Timber 1030YYYY-085834
Lol
08:58
Not for me. In due for a new iPad and possibly the new Mac Mini to replace my iMac. We’ll see....
08:59
But the iPad Pro is a definite so I’m excited
08:59
Sadly I have to go in the middle but I’ll take what I can get until then
09:00
As long as they don’t do an immediate release after the event I’m good lol
09:01
Otherwise god damn I’ll be waiting a while longer
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Timber 1030YYYY-092557
Here we are Mac Mini!
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heyflorin 1030YYYY-115455
Stuck on an idea: Trying to create a photo tool that bundles of photos and asks to create albums. Here's how it would work:
Photo Get a list of photos loop through each photo compare dates taken lump all photos taken within a certain span of time (say 10 minutes) into it's own list At the end of the workflow, show the user each list and ask if they want to create an album
I started the shortcut, but got stuck with using variables vs dictionaries vs files. Here it is: https://www.icloud.com/shortcuts/2e9d9e76e9e74099bda7026f8ac1a1d9
11:56
Could be super useful for cleaning out photo library. Was going to add a feature where it allows you to either select shots to keep from a particular bundle or just discard non-favorites.
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Timber 1030YYYY-121036
Shortcuts 2.1 is now live!
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-121839
YAYAYAYA
12:18
Updating now.
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VanishingTacos 1030YYYY-121956
Is can already tell that it’s so much more stable.
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-122009
That's good to hear.
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heyflorin 1030YYYY-122057
Yup my battery life has increased by close to 900% since the update.
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VanishingTacos 1030YYYY-122211
I can actually organize my shortcuts without extreme lag
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heyflorin 1030YYYY-122315
Still can't move multiple shortcuts though.
12:23
I don't get it; why would they let us grab several shortcuts when we can't do anything with them...
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VanishingTacos 1030YYYY-122547
Mass delete
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heyflorin 1030YYYY-122642
Drag and hold one as if you are about to move it hovering over. Then with your other finger, tape another one, it will be added to the bundle. You can do that with many.
12:26
For apparently no reason.
12:27
Or select a few then tap to drag, they will all drag together.
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Timber 1030YYYY-123812
Yet still no folders.
12:38
Fuck it.
12:38
lol
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heyflorin 1030YYYY-123827
Seriously.
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VanishingTacos 1030YYYY-123914
You can put shortcuts on the springboard and put them into folders.. not really what we want but you get the idea
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1030YYYY-124153
there was zero indication in the beta that they were even remotely considering folders...
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Timber 1030YYYY-124211
I know, but I know for a fact that I am not the first to suggest it lol
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VanishingTacos 1030YYYY-124239
Apple hardly ever listens.. lol
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Timber 1030YYYY-125004
Sorta true
12:50
Well, I'm excited for my new iPad! 😄
12:50
Been waiting on doing that for like 6 months now lol
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VanishingTacos 1030YYYY-125104
I hear it doesn’t have a headphone jack
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Timber 1030YYYY-125145
I haven't had a headphone jack on my iPhone for years now and I don't miss it at all. I NEVER use headphones on my iPad....
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VanishingTacos 1030YYYY-125210
I use Bluetooth headphone so 🤷‍♂️
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Timber 1030YYYY-125448
Exactly
12:55
Got mine free as a student haha
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VanishingTacos 1030YYYY-125637
Lucky shit
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Timber 1030YYYY-130155
XDDD
13:02
Dude if you don't pay for EDU pricing on everything Apple, then you're doing it wrong. Find a friend who has a kid in school or a professor and have them use their EDU pricing
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spencer 1030YYYY-130422
@VanishingTacos I had that reorganizing lag too. Hope the update fixes it for me as well!
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VanishingTacos 1030YYYY-130507
@spencer It’s fixed for me so it should be for you too
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spencer 1030YYYY-130541
It’s fixed!
13:05
It’s fixed!
13:05
Whoops sent it twice lol
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VanishingTacos 1030YYYY-135446
All the logo glyphs are gone
13:57
Still can do text to speech from the widget either.
13:59
Can’t *
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Timber 1030YYYY-140849
There’s a lot you can’t do from the widget
14:08
Add an open in Shortcuts and it fixe
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VanishingTacos 1030YYYY-140922
I’m just sad about the logos lol
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1030YYYY-141137
do shortcuts that previously had those service icons still have them?
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VanishingTacos 1030YYYY-141149
No ^
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14:13
The YouTube and tweet one had their corresponding logos
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1030YYYY-141354
wow
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-141557
Probably ran into some legal issues.
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VanishingTacos 1030YYYY-141622
That’s what I thought too.
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-143633
Alright everyone. I'm working on something big that's coming out in 1 to 2 weeks. It's mainly big for me, because it will hopefully lead to me working on this part or even full time. RoutineHub Community Memberships. It will work similarly to Patreon. You can contribute whatever you'd like, and whatever tier you fall under, you will receive those perks (features). Here is the breakdown right now. Would love some feedback. # Patron Saint # $1+ /month - Pin your current favorite Shortcut to your profile. # Shortcut Ninja # $5+ /month - Up to 5 Shortcut collections for better organization - View detailed statistics for your Shortcuts # Beta Fish # $10+ /month - Unlimited Shortcut collections for better organization - Access to beta features # Walking Billboard # $25+ /month - Free shirt or hat from the RoutineHub Shop - 20% off everything in the RoutineHub Shop You will also get a badge with the tier name beside your username across the site. And of course you will get the features from the previous tiers as well. (edited)
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Brendan 🦿 1030YYYY-143737
What are shortcut collections?
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-143807
It's a new feature that isn't out yet 😃
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Brendan 🦿 1030YYYY-143818
ohh okay.
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-143822
You'll be able to make collections of your favorite shortcuts
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Brendan 🦿 1030YYYY-143839
So kinda like bundles on the AppStore?
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Timber 1030YYYY-143937
So i think that sounds awesome, minus one component... Although I know others do it, I personally dislike the idea of having paid members be beta testers. I think that Beta testers should get something for their time (such as for example the Shortcut Ninja level) rather than the other way around. That's just my opinion from beta testing for a number of other companies. I know that the way you have it set up is standard for many, but I personally think that it's backwards...
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-143950
@Brendan 🦿 You could use them that way! It was intended to be used to keep track of the shortcuts you, yourself, use. You'll also be able to toggle notifications for the Shortcuts in that collection, so you can be made aware of when your favorite shortcuts are updated.
14:40
@Timber That's a fair point.
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Brendan 🦿 1030YYYY-144045
oh gotcha! Can't wait to see it
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-144144
And there will be other features added down the road.
14:42
I'm trying to keep paid features to be extra things that the average user isn't going to need, but power users may want. (edited)
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Timber 1030YYYY-144436
I definitely think that makes sense, for most of the features like collections, pinning, even user profiles and things of that nature I can totally get behind on being paid (even though, no lies, I can't afford the higher tier at all, but I am sure some can), but I just take care on that one point.
14:45
I guess I would also want to make sure that there is a free-tier that does still give a real platform to use and doesn't limit users in uploads or things of that nature. I think those features build a community and having them be paid would be a loss for all.
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-144653
Definitely. I hope that people will understand that the features I plan on adding to these tiers are completely optional and are to help keep the site running and growing. Yeah, and no one needs that higher tier, but there will be someone eventually who will contribute that, or more, and I want to make sure that they are rewarded for that.
14:47
Honestly, I've been humbled with even the $9/month I make on Patreon. The problem with Patreon is that I can't automate features, and they take a decent cut that I could keep integrating it into the site myself. (edited)
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Timber 1030YYYY-144841
No i totally hear you and think it's a really good idea. You have the chance to make something awesome here, and I think that there are a lot of people who would love to help support that endeavor, even if it;'s at the $1/month tier!
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-144905
Ok cool. I was beginning to get concerned that I'd turned you off @Timber 😂
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Brendan 🦿 1030YYYY-145004
What are the ways to donate? Just curious
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Timber 1030YYYY-145008
No, I am a fan of having optional payment type tiers. Hell, I'd even be happy to prolly join in on one of the lower tiers just to support you, but, I just really believe that there are certain things that should be given rewards (like beta testing) and certain things that should be available to all for free. (edited)
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-145045
I hope that you continue to question me in that @Timber. I do appreciate your opinion.
14:50
@Brendan 🦿 It will all be done through Stripe.
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Timber 1030YYYY-145101
😃
14:51
Thanks for being so open to it! (edited)
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e10. (i made rogue siri) 1030YYYY-145208
You should do some kind of routinehub premium maybe
14:52
Like add extra routinehub features and block them only for patrons pr something
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-145258
@Timber I will say as a dev, the Beta thing is interesting. I've had a site where I've had 50 beta testers sign up, and about 15-20 actually use the service and/or have contributed good feedback. I was kind of thinking that I would get more serious testers this way. And maybe I'll add something extra to that. I'll definitely think this over a bit
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Timber 1030YYYY-145345
Here, I am actually going to PM you real quick with some thoughts.
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-145346
@e10. (i made rogue siri) That's essentially what I'm doing, just by tier instead of doing it as "premium" and "not premium"
14:53
@Timber wonderful. thanks 😊
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e10. (i made rogue siri) 1030YYYY-145428
Also. Maybe it wouldn’t be too far fetched to have a routinehub app?
14:54
On the App Store?
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Brendan 🦿 1030YYYY-145449
I mean, it'll take a lot of skill @e10. (i made rogue siri)
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e10. (i made rogue siri) 1030YYYY-145519
just throwing ideas out ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (edited)
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Brendan 🦿 1030YYYY-145534
i know that, but I like the idea.
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-145551
I have it on my list of things I'm exploring.
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e10. (i made rogue siri) 1030YYYY-145615
It could be annoying since Apple charges you 100$ to be a developer
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-145641
Yeah, but that could be a covered expense if I'm able to bring in enough contributions.
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Brendan 🦿 1030YYYY-145642
It's every year, but that's why people have those premium stuff.
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-145648
^
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e10. (i made rogue siri) 1030YYYY-145849
Also I feel like routinehub needs a bit of tweaking in the design aspect
14:58
I don’t know what it is
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Timber 1030YYYY-150231
RE: Being on the App Store, that would also require this to be acceptable to the App Store, and I am not clear on whether or not this would be a violation of their policies for content on the app store...
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Brendan 🦿 1030YYYY-150247
True.. I was thinking of that.
15:04
I mean, it could be possible, but check here first before making it.
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-150448
I would probably reach out to them and talk to someone who could help me navigate.
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e10. (i made rogue siri) 1030YYYY-150910
Maybe routinehub can qualify as a social media platform
15:09
Technically it is
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Timber 1030YYYY-151028
I mean, that's a very vague description lol.
15:10
Apple is strict, but for good reason imo
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e10. (i made rogue siri) 1030YYYY-151049
Well, in routinehub you share content, right?
15:11
I don’t see why that won’t be allowed
15:11
Even if routinehub starts allowing prices for shortcuts
15:11
Stores exist in the App Store
15:11
Like Amazon and eBay
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-151222
But you can't buy books through Amazon's Kindle app because it's competition to a core app in iOS.
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e10. (i made rogue siri) 1030YYYY-151312
Woah really
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Timber 1030YYYY-151321
Really? I didn't know that lmao
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e10. (i made rogue siri) 1030YYYY-151321
Never really used kindle
15:13
Well, let’s say you don’t allow pricing shortcuts (edited)
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Brendan 🦿 1030YYYY-151415
I mean, it is not competition.. it is a free app that allows us to get shortcuts
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e10. (i made rogue siri) 1030YYYY-151421
I think it’s a bad idea anyways
15:14
It’s free distribution of content
15:14
I don’t see that as a problem
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-151507
Yeah, I'm not planning on adding paid Shortcuts.
15:15
But even so, I'm not 100% sure if it would be allowed. I'll definitely look into it though.
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e10. (i made rogue siri) 1030YYYY-151831
Yeah... I’ve skimmed through the business section of the App Store guidelines. Nothing about distributing free content
15:18
You should definitely check yourself though
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Brendan 🦿 1030YYYY-152300
^
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spencer 1030YYYY-161747
How would one even implement paid shortcuts? It’d be really hard to control when users can just send the link
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ᵖᶠᵍ (ScPL) 1030YYYY-163146
Key checking and serverside stuff
16:32
Like you could make a website which requires a user key to use that costs money
16:32
Basically it wouldn’t really work
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VanishingTacos 1030YYYY-163341
That can be circumvented super easily
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-163512
Yeah, it's crossed my mind in the past, but I think it would be rather complicated. Plus, I like the collaborative environment it has spawned. Making paid ones could hurt that community. And if a Shortcut has that much time and energy put into it, maybe the author should consider making a full-fledged app instead.
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Brendan 🦿 1030YYYY-164534
I was going to mention that earlier then I decided that I didn't want to.. I agree with that.
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VanishingTacos 1030YYYY-164809
The flashlight function on 2.1 no longer works.
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Brendan 🦿 1030YYYY-165958
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VanishingTacos 1030YYYY-170030
Yup
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-170232
That means the magical shortcut, Lumos, that I put on my wife's phone no longer works 😩
17:02
I wonder if that's a bug or if they removed it on purpose.
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VanishingTacos 1030YYYY-170322
It a bug
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-170340
2.1.1 incoming 😂
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VanishingTacos 1030YYYY-170554
5 betas and this got though. Yikes.
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-170612
Yeah, I'm pretty surprised actually.
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VanishingTacos 1030YYYY-170757
Fixes a bunch of bugs only to introduce new bugs. The life of programmers.
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-170809
Hey, that's me too.
17:08
#2meirl4meirl
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VanishingTacos 1030YYYY-170855
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-170913
XKCD is always relevant.
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VanishingTacos 1030YYYY-171012
😂 1
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-171043
Man, I'm really feeling that these days.
17:10
More like "in Notepad++"
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Timber 1030YYYY-171250
Same for flashlight here too.
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-171302
I tested it with "Lumos". It gone.
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VanishingTacos 1030YYYY-171353
Lammee
17:16
What iOS versions are you guys on?
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-171819
I haven't updated yet.
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heyflorin 1030YYYY-171822
I hadn't updated to 12.1 yet and just tried the flashlight
17:18
Didn't work
17:18
Updating now
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-171846
Ah, that may be it
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VanishingTacos 1030YYYY-171859
I’m on 12.0 waiting for a jb 🤷‍♂️
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-171922
Haha. I haven't jailbroken in forever.
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VanishingTacos 1030YYYY-172102
I jailbroke on 11.3 and left a months later after having so many problems. I don’t regret leaving for iOS 12.
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1030YYYY-172258
i used to be into jailbreaking. i made a few tweaks and even wrote the documentation for Springtomize but not so much these days
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Harley Hicks 1030YYYY-172314
Springtomize. That brings back memories
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Mike (UpdateKit API, RoutinePub) 1030YYYY-172410
yeah man. i miss those days
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